Good one Dave. I have had the same realisation of the power of MIRO and MURALS. I am keen to now use them even in face to face workshops. Just need more table facilitation for that to work.
Hybrid sessions… that’s a very interesting nut I have yet to crack. The vision I guess is to get the best of both worlds. Let me know if you have any breakthroughs.
Yes Dave thats the goal. I have a series of important strategic workshops coming and I keen to start with a face to face and use Miro and then move to online as needed.
The other opportunity as you would know is the ability to create frameworks, tools and even slides in Miro.
In Australia I saw how you used the projector to draw and share in a simple way. Very inspired by your work and will share once I have done it.
Ah cool, you were there! Which one? Melbourne, Brisbane, or Sydney?
I was thinking maybe it would be interesting to do the workshop normally.and have breakout groups in Miro/Mural... Just a seed of a thought there, haven't quite thought it through yet
Actually I was the Partner for Australia for BMI with Michael Eales and we brought you here. I attended two of your sessions.
Breakout is definitely the space for Miro like tools. That's my thinking too.
Run breakout sessions and then use the planery to bring everyone together and use the work on Miro to show what has been done and at the same time do clustering or move to next steps as required.
Sorry, clearly my memory isn’t what it once was. I do remember that visit fondly, maybe if I had a face to go with the name I might have better recall :)
Yes that was what I was thinking too. Having the breakout work on boards would facilitate momentum and next steps post-workshop. I hope you’ll share how that goes and what you learn in the process
I like how you've captured the pros and cons of each approach. Index cards and sticky notes certainly offer advantages over whiteboards and flip charts in terms of being able to move different pieces of information around.
There's also the venerable cork board, of course, which gives index cards the ability to defy gravity with the equally venerable push pin. Not that cork boards are omnipresent...
Ha! I think you might like my recent project on this. A kind of “magic the gathering” for creativity and problem-solving: https://visualframeworks.com/
May I also share this take on the creative problem solving methods of magician Stewart James from the Advantage Play book? Less visual in the description but another use for cards.
I've used both for years (plus, journals, tabloid-size graph paper, and digital whiteboard hardware/software). I can put my finger on most of the paper assets pretty quickly, but the volume of physical artifacts has practical limits I have yet to properly address. Digital takes up so much less space, but there is persistent friction in trying to re-find them - which is kinda ironic, considering how easy it is to automatically tack useful meta-data onto assets.
I go everywhere with a thin stack of index cards in a cheep-o leatherette holder to capture the random thought, doodle a mental image, or note a book or podcast suggestion. Sticky notes do seem to be more ephemeral and best used when concentrated in one "arc" of conversation. When you get to point "B" in that arc, I find it best to lift out the insights or key sentiments to take forward. If it's ALL important, then digitizing it is key. I've found out the hard way that well-loved post-its can fall off and become lost if left overnight or for a multi-day session.
I guess I'm just openly admitting that in a pinch, I'll grab what's handy and hope for the best - but I know better :)
Good one Dave. I have had the same realisation of the power of MIRO and MURALS. I am keen to now use them even in face to face workshops. Just need more table facilitation for that to work.
Hybrid sessions… that’s a very interesting nut I have yet to crack. The vision I guess is to get the best of both worlds. Let me know if you have any breakthroughs.
Yes Dave thats the goal. I have a series of important strategic workshops coming and I keen to start with a face to face and use Miro and then move to online as needed.
The other opportunity as you would know is the ability to create frameworks, tools and even slides in Miro.
In Australia I saw how you used the projector to draw and share in a simple way. Very inspired by your work and will share once I have done it.
Ah cool, you were there! Which one? Melbourne, Brisbane, or Sydney?
I was thinking maybe it would be interesting to do the workshop normally.and have breakout groups in Miro/Mural... Just a seed of a thought there, haven't quite thought it through yet
Actually I was the Partner for Australia for BMI with Michael Eales and we brought you here. I attended two of your sessions.
Breakout is definitely the space for Miro like tools. That's my thinking too.
Run breakout sessions and then use the planery to bring everyone together and use the work on Miro to show what has been done and at the same time do clustering or move to next steps as required.
Sorry, clearly my memory isn’t what it once was. I do remember that visit fondly, maybe if I had a face to go with the name I might have better recall :)
Yes that was what I was thinking too. Having the breakout work on boards would facilitate momentum and next steps post-workshop. I hope you’ll share how that goes and what you learn in the process
All good. You meet lots of people.
I will definitely explore that and share my learnings. It's a few weeks away.
I like how you've captured the pros and cons of each approach. Index cards and sticky notes certainly offer advantages over whiteboards and flip charts in terms of being able to move different pieces of information around.
There's also the venerable cork board, of course, which gives index cards the ability to defy gravity with the equally venerable push pin. Not that cork boards are omnipresent...
Cork boards are awesome too. Although usually I just take them out and use them as thinking tools on a table top, more like a card deck.
Now I'm thinking of a game of Magic: The Gathering...
Ha! I think you might like my recent project on this. A kind of “magic the gathering” for creativity and problem-solving: https://visualframeworks.com/
Cool, thanks for sharing!
May I also share this take on the creative problem solving methods of magician Stewart James from the Advantage Play book? Less visual in the description but another use for cards.
https://howaboutthis.substack.com/p/the-powerful-idea-kindlers-of-master
I got the book!
Curious to hear your thoughts about it, Dave!
Fascinating, thank you
I've used both for years (plus, journals, tabloid-size graph paper, and digital whiteboard hardware/software). I can put my finger on most of the paper assets pretty quickly, but the volume of physical artifacts has practical limits I have yet to properly address. Digital takes up so much less space, but there is persistent friction in trying to re-find them - which is kinda ironic, considering how easy it is to automatically tack useful meta-data onto assets.
I go everywhere with a thin stack of index cards in a cheep-o leatherette holder to capture the random thought, doodle a mental image, or note a book or podcast suggestion. Sticky notes do seem to be more ephemeral and best used when concentrated in one "arc" of conversation. When you get to point "B" in that arc, I find it best to lift out the insights or key sentiments to take forward. If it's ALL important, then digitizing it is key. I've found out the hard way that well-loved post-its can fall off and become lost if left overnight or for a multi-day session.
I guess I'm just openly admitting that in a pinch, I'll grab what's handy and hope for the best - but I know better :)